problems already.
03-18-2007 | 06:50 PM
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problems already.
ok so i got my ls turbo setup going and it was running good for about 2 days with ecception to the ic pies blowing off all the time. it made good boost and power from what i could tell. anyway. i have theis huge overheating problem. it will stay cool for a while but once i get on it. it will start to overheat, im pretty sure the headgasket is blown. im blowing out white smoke and hit 15 psi on accident a few times. what do you guys think? oh and its just a 2-5 radiator for now. and it sounds like crap. like its on three cylinders in the lower rpms, let me know if you could help with any of this.
03-18-2007 | 11:12 PM
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Re: problems already.
Originally Posted by 2poor2tune
ok so i got my ls turbo setup going and it was running good for about 2 days with ecception to the ic pies blowing off all the time. it made good boost and power from what i could tell.
anyway. i have theis huge overheating problem. it will stay cool for a while but once i get on it. it will start to overheat, im pretty sure the headgasket is blown. im blowing out white smoke and hit 15 psi on accident a few times. what do you guys think? oh and its just a 2-5 radiator for now. and it sounds like crap. like its on three cylinders in the lower rpms, let me know if you could help with any of this.
03-19-2007 | 12:40 AM
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Re: problems already.
How much boost are you running? How do you know what kind of power you are/were making? I am guessing there was no dyno or tuning in involved.
im running a 10 psi tune with a worthless wastegate. it would just stay apen the whole time so i just used a block of plate so once i hit 10 psi in first i shift to second and its already at 10 psi basicly so im dumb and go over 10 on accedent. my car blew out white smoke before the turbo. not alot but enough. idk. im gonna get a new head gasket. what would be the best one? i heard cometic ones are good. oh and im just refering to how much the car pulls when in boost. thats why i would ussumeits making good power.
im running a 10 psi tune with a worthless wastegate. it would just stay apen the whole time so i just used a block of plate so once i hit 10 psi in first i shift to second and its already at 10 psi basicly so im dumb and go over 10 on accedent. my car blew out white smoke before the turbo. not alot but enough. idk. im gonna get a new head gasket. what would be the best one? i heard cometic ones are good. oh and im just refering to how much the car pulls when in boost. thats why i would ussumeits making good power.
03-19-2007 | 01:12 AM
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Re: problems already.
Originally Posted by 2poor2tune
How much boost are you running? How do you know what kind of power you are/were making? I am guessing there was no dyno or tuning in involved.
im running a 10 psi tune with a worthless wastegate. it would just stay apen the whole time so i just used a block of plate so once i hit 10 psi in first i shift to second and its already at 10 psi basicly so im dumb and go over 10 on accedent. my car blew out white smoke before the turbo. not alot but enough. idk. im gonna get a new head gasket. what would be the best one? i heard cometic ones are good. oh and im just refering to how much the car pulls when in boost. thats why i would ussumeits making good power.
im running a 10 psi tune with a worthless wastegate. it would just stay apen the whole time so i just used a block of plate so once i hit 10 psi in first i shift to second and its already at 10 psi basicly so im dumb and go over 10 on accedent. my car blew out white smoke before the turbo. not alot but enough. idk. im gonna get a new head gasket. what would be the best one? i heard cometic ones are good. oh and im just refering to how much the car pulls when in boost. thats why i would ussumeits making good power.
Stock Honda HG is the way to go IMO.
03-19-2007 | 01:20 AM
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Re: problems already.
ok cool. ill get a stock one then. my wastegate is a xs power 38mm external with a 6.somthin random psi spring in it. and wehn i start the car it just opens right away and lets all the boost out. i have the bottom vaccume sorce to the intake manifold t'd off with the boost guage. and the top vaccume sorce is just open. lmk what the deal is and if i did it wrong
03-19-2007 | 01:38 AM
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Re: problems already.
These are all just things you have to sort out. I'd say you do have a blown HG if not a possible warped or cracked head. the only reason I think the last two are possible is because you said it was doing it before you installed the turbo.
the running on three cylinders could be that it's dumping water into one of your cylinders. pull your plugs and check and see if they look differant from each other.
Another reason could be a real bad basemap. Now that I'm tuning myself I see that a basemap just really has no chance to work for you. I used one I made from bigdaddyvtec and another from xenocrons bin depository they ran the car but not to well in boost. For example bigdaddyvtecs was lean on my car after like 3psi adjusted I added fuel were needed and the car came to life man it was night and day. and I'm talking just minor adjustments. eventually while reading one of JD's posts I learned that crome can open some prelude bins so I found a real f22a1 timing map to start out with and my car got even better.
Don't feel bad about the 15psi thing I did something about like that. The shroud for my fan cut my wg line and I hit around 20 psi. all that happens is you go past the stock map sensor and the thing runs like crap and doesn't make any power anyway so it doesn't hurt as bad as you would think. if it was somewat tuned and you were making 15psi power then it would hurt the motor more quicker but it's not good in any case just not the end of the world to do it one time on accident.
A cheap way to fix the charge pipes from blowing off is to buy a foot or so of truck hose from napa and cut it into couplers that hose works great I haven't had a problem with it.
the running on three cylinders could be that it's dumping water into one of your cylinders. pull your plugs and check and see if they look differant from each other.
Another reason could be a real bad basemap. Now that I'm tuning myself I see that a basemap just really has no chance to work for you. I used one I made from bigdaddyvtec and another from xenocrons bin depository they ran the car but not to well in boost. For example bigdaddyvtecs was lean on my car after like 3psi adjusted I added fuel were needed and the car came to life man it was night and day. and I'm talking just minor adjustments. eventually while reading one of JD's posts I learned that crome can open some prelude bins so I found a real f22a1 timing map to start out with and my car got even better.
Don't feel bad about the 15psi thing I did something about like that. The shroud for my fan cut my wg line and I hit around 20 psi. all that happens is you go past the stock map sensor and the thing runs like crap and doesn't make any power anyway so it doesn't hurt as bad as you would think. if it was somewat tuned and you were making 15psi power then it would hurt the motor more quicker but it's not good in any case just not the end of the world to do it one time on accident.
A cheap way to fix the charge pipes from blowing off is to buy a foot or so of truck hose from napa and cut it into couplers that hose works great I haven't had a problem with it.
03-19-2007 | 01:45 AM
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Re: problems already.
well the couplers havent been a problem for about a day now. i will try the spart plug idea right now to see any differances. but im running a vafc for tuning and retarded the timeing at the distributor. and the car dident overheat before the turbo. it just after it was put on. i actually worked some things out and drove it today and it dident overheat. so we will see about that. but forst i need to work out theis running like crap problem. im gonna pull the plugs right now and then do a compression check tomorrow.
03-19-2007 | 12:48 PM
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Re: problems already.
Originally Posted by xternal
hitting 15psi on accident is like hitting your 15 year old sister by accident.no go.
And retarding the timing to much at the dizzy will definatly make you overheat.
03-20-2007 | 11:20 AM
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Re: problems already.
Originally Posted by 2poor2tune
i have the bottom vaccume sorce to the intake manifold t'd off with the boost guage. and the top vaccume sorce is just open. lmk what the deal is and if i did it wrong
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