another politcal thread? iq??? what?
#71
Re: another politcal thread? iq??? what?
Originally Posted by skinnye
definition of socialism
socialism -–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles
so·cial·ism
Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.
Please read, how is he not a socialist?
http://davidtjordan.wordpress.com/20...es-of-america/
socialism -–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles
so·cial·ism
Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.
Please read, how is he not a socialist?
http://davidtjordan.wordpress.com/20...es-of-america/
How that is socialist I have no idea. Its so funny that people continue to focus on how Obama is a socialist while completely ignoring the fact that under George Bush we have been on the fast track to dictatorship. He has twice said on camera that he wishes that this was a dictartorship because it would be easier for him... No checks and balances, diminished rights, our 'free market' spending literally TRILLIONS to bail out companies that under free market/ capitalistic principles should be allowed to fail.
Originally Posted by random-strike
flaco you're a ------- moron and have absolutely no clue what you're talking about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution
figure it out, the US constitution limits the powers of the federal government.
redistribution of wealth in any form is socialism.
move to europe if you want to be a big govt poor loser your entire life. some people like to get rich by working hard, being smart, or being lucky.
ps: ---- off
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution
figure it out, the US constitution limits the powers of the federal government.
redistribution of wealth in any form is socialism.
move to europe if you want to be a big govt poor loser your entire life. some people like to get rich by working hard, being smart, or being lucky.
ps: ---- off
#72
Re: another politcal thread? iq??? what?
The economy has been full of lost jobs and credit has income for 10+years. It has to correct itself adding more credit into the system is just adding fuel to the problem
The idea that people think government is needed for economic growth are foolish at best. Moron's who have 125k in student loan debt, 400k homes with 40k income are meant to fail.
Obama adding Billions in borrowed money will only weaken the us dollar its kinda day one ---- in Economics which no one can grasp for some odd reason.
New energy needs to be private and plenty of companies are already up and coming. Government intervention in their develoment will only slow down the process of new energy.
Government takes years to get anything done what makes people think Obama is different.
Conclusion: Crying to your government to save you is a joke. Save yourself.
The idea that people think government is needed for economic growth are foolish at best. Moron's who have 125k in student loan debt, 400k homes with 40k income are meant to fail.
Obama adding Billions in borrowed money will only weaken the us dollar its kinda day one ---- in Economics which no one can grasp for some odd reason.
New energy needs to be private and plenty of companies are already up and coming. Government intervention in their develoment will only slow down the process of new energy.
Government takes years to get anything done what makes people think Obama is different.
Conclusion: Crying to your government to save you is a joke. Save yourself.
#73
Re: another politcal thread? iq??? what?
Sigh. I didn't try, I did it. You're refusing to accept it as a truth. Whatever. Stop trying to wave around the academic sword. I work in a political science department in a university and tell people with Ph. D's how to use the ------- printer. You haven't provided any solid evidence to refute my claims. Although, I haven't necessarily gone too far into it because I didn't expect you to skew his personal ideology so far that he comes out looking like Hank Reardon.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12237.html
Explain how this isn't socialist. We'll focus on this one policy. It's blatant and supports my point.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12237.html
Explain how this isn't socialist. We'll focus on this one policy. It's blatant and supports my point.
#74
Re: another politcal thread? iq??? what?
Originally Posted by random-strike
from what i was never a republican and i never voted for bush lol
#76
Re: another politcal thread? iq??? what?
Originally Posted by flacopower
Its so funny that people continue to focus on how Obama is a socialist while completely ignoring the fact that under George Bush we have been on the fast track to dictatorship.
#77
Re: another politcal thread? iq??? what?
you know what else is funny flaco, its ******* like you that will give obango a pass when he does the same ---- as bush.
no one complained when klinton bombed iraq, somalia, kosovo... etc... i bet you were all for that.
and when nothing about the 'war on terror' changes under obango will you claim he is a dictator too?
no one complained when klinton bombed iraq, somalia, kosovo... etc... i bet you were all for that.
and when nothing about the 'war on terror' changes under obango will you claim he is a dictator too?
#79
Re: another politcal thread? iq??? what?
flaco power the reasone why you have never lost this argument is you can not admit you are wrong, you read the definition of socialism then went on to describe his health plan. Which by definition is a form of socialism, hell its in the name
#80
Re: another politcal thread? iq??? what?
Originally Posted by skinnye
flaco power the reasone why you have never lost this argument is you can not admit you are wrong, you read the definition of socialism then went on to describe his health plan. Which by definition is a form of socialism, hell its in the name
Originally Posted by chris
The economy has been full of lost jobs and credit has income for 10+years. It has to correct itself adding more credit into the system is just adding fuel to the problem
The idea that people think government is needed for economic growth are foolish at best. Moron's who have 125k in student loan debt, 400k homes with 40k income are meant to fail.
Obama adding Billions in borrowed money will only weaken the us dollar its kinda day one ---- in Economics which no one can grasp for some odd reason.
New energy needs to be private and plenty of companies are already up and coming. Government intervention in their develoment will only slow down the process of new energy.
Government takes years to get anything done what makes people think Obama is different.
Conclusion: Crying to your government to save you is a joke. Save yourself.
The idea that people think government is needed for economic growth are foolish at best. Moron's who have 125k in student loan debt, 400k homes with 40k income are meant to fail.
Obama adding Billions in borrowed money will only weaken the us dollar its kinda day one ---- in Economics which no one can grasp for some odd reason.
New energy needs to be private and plenty of companies are already up and coming. Government intervention in their develoment will only slow down the process of new energy.
Government takes years to get anything done what makes people think Obama is different.
Conclusion: Crying to your government to save you is a joke. Save yourself.
Anyone that puts 100% backing into either the free markets or the government is a ------- moron. In business school we never once were taught about the overcompassing power of the free markets.... We need a healthy balance of both regulating and controlling each other. I am ------- tired of people starting to call names when their ideologies are opposed... The founding fathers were smart when they