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beerbongskickass 10-19-2006 05:06 PM

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I hate V8 owners that flame on honda guys, especially when they have never seen a GOOD setup, they only know about the slow ricer setups. ---- I like V8's and 4 cylinders, I just happen to be driving a honda, my V8 truck doesn't get the best gas mileage to commute.

mike94se 10-19-2006 05:07 PM

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LS1 RX7 > Rotray RX7 :P

Random Hero 10-19-2006 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mike94se
LS1 RX7 > Rotray RX7 :P

3Rotor RX7 > LS1 RX7 > Rotray RX7 :P

rudebwoy 10-19-2006 05:15 PM

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how about a 4 rotor twin turbo bmw ? I've seen this in a magazine a while ago

J-SMITH69 10-19-2006 05:35 PM

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d and b series honda motors are very easy to take apart and put back together

small/big block chevy motors are very easy to take apart and put back together

which is easier, not sure... cause they're both so damn simple.

and leroy there is probably five hundred thousand street driven 302cid NA mustangs that would beat your civic.

jinxy 10-19-2006 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
d and b series honda motors are very easy to take apart and put back together

small/big block chevy motors are very easy to take apart and put back together

which is easier, not sure... cause they're both so damn simple.

and leroy there is probably five hundred thousand street driven 302cid NA mustangs that would beat your civic.

small blocks are easier, and you don't have to worry as much about clearances or the engine spining something when it goes back together.

J-SMITH69 10-19-2006 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rawr
small blocks are easier, and you don't have to worry as much about clearances or the engine spining something when it goes back together.

this is true.

8psi of oil pressure per 1000x rpm and you'll be fine!

if you only rev to 4500 you only need 36psi!

iceracercrx 10-19-2006 06:24 PM

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Say hello to my little friend. It made 593 to the wheels in 1998. 346 cubic inch. This was the sencond year of the LS motors. The motor is now across the pond making more power. Not a drag car, I think it lasted a year before it's first freashing. Just wanted everyone to see what a good LS motor is all about.
Attachment 31814

My advise to Paxton, get of this forum before someone hangs you. If you build it, it will be fast!!!


HondaTuner 10-19-2006 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by d0nfry
sinister just cause u can't get laid dosn't mean your "celebate". why u talkin so much lately

Shut up nignog, this thread isnt about my sex life, its about Paxton sucking at life. STAY ON TOPIC :7

raiden571 10-19-2006 06:48 PM

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4 rotor>everything else
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...5901672908.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...4900391220.htm
V8's r gay

HondaTuner 10-19-2006 06:54 PM

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Kain, is that you? ???

raiden571 10-19-2006 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Kain, is that you? ???

nak, zack (turdbo) just shows me all these videos when he comes over and i just cant help but love them.

HondaTuner 10-19-2006 07:03 PM

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It's called a joke. Kain is obsessed with rotataries.

Mo0se 10-19-2006 07:21 PM

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I hate to jump into such an assanine arguement, but reading this thread put a bitter taste in my mouth. I'm going to have to agree that the LS1 can be a far superior motor. I live in a city where LS1s are common place and few are virgin. I've seen the potential firsthand. I've also seen a single turbo setup on a z28 camaro and a twin turbo setup on a trans-am, and its nothing short of amazing. Theres a street legal '00 corvette that runs 10s, w/ 700hp on spray. So, I can't sit idly by and have people who haven't done the research knock on one of the greatest v8s IMHO ever produced. As far as being too expensive? ls1tech has cars for sale all the time for under 8k. Also, you must take in account the numerous free mods that increase hp for absolutely nothing more than time. So, I wouldn't look past the ls1 just because it doesnt fit into your picture perfect world of king kong 4 cylinders. As far as the "if japan had 30 yrs" well take in account that the 346ci LS1 makes more power stock than a lot of the BBs of decades past. Also being aluminum its very light for a v8. Don't forget about the wieght transfer arguement, the rwd ls1 will put down more traction than a fwd 4 w/ equal sized tires. I'm sorry, but I must argue on behalf of the push rod. Now instead of immediately dismissing it, think of the obvious potential. Turbo ls1? i know firsthand, nearly untouchable.

I'm prepared to put my flame suit on, but first keep in mind that I have an LS-T and I also know the potential of a turbo 4 cylinder as well. So I'm not really argueing the ls1 will always be better, I'm just argueing its not an engine to be underestimated. the end.

J-SMITH69 10-19-2006 08:15 PM

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4 rotor < a lot

there are street cars running faster than that. and they also last a long time :)

in the other thread about the fastest street car blah blah, there are street cars running 6s ::)

USS 10-19-2006 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fysh
I hate to jump into such an assanine arguement, but reading this thread put a bitter taste in my mouth. I'm going to have to agree that the LS1 can be a far superior motor. I live in a city where LS1s are common place and few are virgin. I've seen the potential firsthand. I've also seen a single turbo setup on a z28 camaro and a twin turbo setup on a trans-am, and its nothing short of amazing. Theres a street legal '00 corvette that runs 10s, w/ 700hp on spray. So, I can't sit idly by and have people who haven't done the research knock on one of the greatest v8s IMHO ever produced. As far as being too expensive? ls1tech has cars for sale all the time for under 8k. Also, you must take in account the numerous free mods that increase hp for absolutely nothing more than time. So, I wouldn't look past the ls1 just because it doesnt fit into your picture perfect world of king kong 4 cylinders. As far as the "if japan had 30 yrs" well take in account that the 346ci LS1 makes more power stock than a lot of the BBs of decades past. Also being aluminum its very light for a v8. Don't forget about the wieght transfer arguement, the rwd ls1 will put down more traction than a fwd 4 w/ equal sized tires. I'm sorry, but I must argue on behalf of the push rod. Now instead of immediately dismissing it, think of the obvious potential. Turbo ls1? i know firsthand, nearly untouchable.

I'm prepared to put my flame suit on, but first keep in mind that I have an LS-T and I also know the potential of a turbo 4 cylinder as well. So I'm not really argueing the ls1 will always be better, I'm just argueing its not an engine to be underestimated. the end.

Amen.

I'd love to have an LS1. I love the engine, just not the typical cars they come in. No doubt the vette is sweet.. just too much money for me.

I'd throw the LS1 in an RX7 in a heartbeat. No doubt they perform better and more reliably than any turbo Honda, but I still like the underdog thing that turbo Honda has.

stevecivic 10-19-2006 10:41 PM

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LS1's and all of the LS series motors are bad ass. Good power and good Mpg for a V8. I have helped put a few ls1's in rock crawer buggies with Turn key motors wiring harness and ecu. With turn keys harness and ecu the ls1 is putting out 420 crank hp in stock fourm. The price for a ls1 from a wrecking yard with out harness is around 3k and the harness and computer is 1400. So for 4500 or so you can have over 400hp swap with a five wire hook up. A Ls1 would be a good swap in a s10 or small rwd car but i think that i would rather have a turbo'd b series that handles well. I guess it is just what your looking for in the end.

steve

rudebwoy 10-20-2006 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
d and b series honda motors are very easy to take apart and put back together

small/big block chevy motors are very easy to take apart and put back together

which is easier, not sure... cause they're both so damn simple.

and leroy there is probably five hundred thousand street driven 302cid NA mustangs that would beat your civic.

here we go again with the mustang vs my civic. I told in the last thread when you made a comment about me thing my civic is the fastest, I replied I realized it may sound like it but I dont meant to sound like that because I have a lot of respect for domestics. I just cant stand domestic car drivers that think because they have more cylinders and displacement they are always faster no matter what conditions, so I use my experience of beating up on mustangs with my 4 banger to support my argument. I understand that if I lined up next to turbocharged v6 mustang with good setup I will get murdered. but all the guys that I raced are just ignorant redneeeecks like yourself that thinks displacement owns no matter what condition.

for the record I never got beaten by a mustang. and I race them a lot. thats not a statement saying my car is the fastest, I am just saying I havent seen a mustang fast enough in my neck of the woods.


beerbongskickass 10-20-2006 09:16 AM

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It really doesn't matter what motor or car you have. How fast it will be completely depends on the person building the setup and the person driving. Hence why I have beat turbo LS/Vtec hatches that supposedly run mid 11's and trap 120+ mph. The guy that had that car was a complete moron and my setup was dialed in pretty well on the street. I could have had an LS1, b-series, rotary, etc... and done the same thing.

jmhalder 10-20-2006 09:47 AM

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lol, sorry to just jump in... but this paxton guy is a ------ homo... i respect ls1's... a fellow HMT member thats a friend of mine, has had a D16 in his 89 hatch @ 9psi (fun as hell), and he's got a B18 @ 14psi right now, also fun as hell... ive seen 600whp boosted camaro's and i TOTALLY respect that. but hey everyone has their own tastes... this paxton guy is obviously a jackass and likes to start arguments, if you wanna swap a LS1 into your lexus, go ahead and do it ya jackass, do you need our aproval? why ask, if you think EVERYONE is a jackass... btw, about the lag/traction issue w/4cylinder's a while back... i drive a T25'd boosted KA S14... torqey as hell, and traction is NOT an issue... spool is not an issue if i launch from 2k, lol.... i only read on this forum, but damn, i had to add my .02

beerbongskickass 10-20-2006 09:50 AM

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Lag = traction control... ;)

Who cares if a V8 gets the jump, I'll end up passing him at the end.

jmhalder 10-20-2006 09:56 AM

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eh, if you have a "launch control"/studderbox/2-step rev limiter, whatever the ---- honda people call em... a V8 wont even get the jump on the line... funny thing is, id get the jump off the line, then get raped up top!, oh well, the T25 is fun as hell though on a 2.4l

beerbongskickass 10-20-2006 10:03 AM

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Launch control only does you good at a consistent track when your on slicks if you have the option to adjust rpms you launch at while your there, otherwise it's useless. Conditions can change and every street/strip are different, so running around with a 4,5,6k launch isn't going to do ---- for you.

jmhalder 10-20-2006 10:08 AM

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hell, i didnt say 4,5,6k limiters? did I? hell i could spool 7psi on the T25 @ like 2500rpm... and it WILL hook up on the street with a 7psi launch... but your right, with a larger turbo, FWD, or a higher limiter, your not gonna hook up...

beerbongskickass 10-20-2006 10:12 AM

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No you didn't say that, I said that as an example. Spooling 7psi @ 2500rpms has nothing to do with what I was talking about. I am specifically talking about launching the car. Your best bet is to practice a lot and learn to feather the gas in first gear until your able to go WOT.

jmhalder 10-20-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
Your best bet is to practice a lot and learn to feather the gas in first gear until your able to go WOT.

+1 BUT arent we a little off topic... oh yeah... ---- you paxton! lol

beerbongskickass 10-20-2006 10:27 AM

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Werd, paxton is ghey...

McBoost 10-20-2006 10:47 AM

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Impressive... I didn't know a thread could be so ------- pointless.


The only thing I got from this is paxton is ------- retarted.

HondaTuner 10-20-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenny Rogers
The only thing I got from this is paxton is ------- retarted.

That's all you need to know. :)

Paxtonboost 10-20-2006 11:42 AM

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I am gay, I am homo, bla bla bla, is that all you got?..I am yawning at these weak ass insults.....In any event I know what I am talking about....Also I am very pleased to see that therer are several knowledgeable people on this forum that realise the true potential of the LSx motors...You guys rock!!!!.... The LS1 would be a excellent motor to swap and build in any car that it would fit in....Whether it be a domestic or a smaller import car it doesn't matter...Rude N/A power is king and very hard to beat..very reliable and more manageable then a twin 4 banger running nos to match the LSX power ....So back off you non-believing retards....Again I have nothing against 4 bangers that are turbo'd on budget....power is still power...

I forgot which bastards blasted me in the previuos posts so I will just say you can all kiss my ass......You whinning babies need to wise up to what engines can do what ... :7 Wake up and smell the coffee before you jerk off to the latest edition of GQ magazine...

Now - Have a nice day :)

HondaTuner 10-20-2006 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Paxtonboost
I am gay,

Congratulations! Admitting it is the first step! :P

Paxtonboost 10-20-2006 11:50 AM

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I am gay and I like you sinister....If you will not go out with me I will stalk you :P Just bend over and get it over with and stop fighting your inner voice......You need to come out of the closet and not be so homo-phobic...

McBoost 10-20-2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxtonboost
I am gay, I am homo, bla bla bla

That about sums it up.


You bring up a valid point about the engine, but you did it in the worst and most immature way possible. I'm sure you will find that many people on this board are not die-hard honda fans... they're fans of low-budget, high HP machines (as should any man).

Take your street racing stories, your bullshit, your attitude and go away. If you feel you can come on here with something other than childish insults, then by all means. If not, I hope your stay here was pleasant.

Econo-Box 10-20-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxtonboost
..Also I am very pleased to see that therer are several knowledgeable people on this forum that realise the true potential of the LSx motors...You guys rock!!!!.... Rude N/A power is king and very hard to beat..very reliable and more manageable then a twin 4 banger running nos to match the LSX power ....So back off you non-believing retards....Again I have nothing against 4 bangers that are turbo'd on budget....power is still power...

Whats a twin 4 banger? and what exactly were you after there fuckface? a couple of peole said that an LS1 was ok in their book. are you implying that they are the only people that are "smart"?

and just on more time ...the site is HOMEMADETURBO.COM so whos talking about running NOS to keep up?

Half of your arguments are random comments. you aren't even really staying on the same topic. You showed up, stirred up dumbshit that you could not intelligently backup and then sat back and threw random comments afterwards.

I hope you die in a fire.

Turdbo 10-20-2006 12:21 PM

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the end

Paxtonboost 10-20-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny Rogers
That about sums it up.


You bring up a valid point about the engine, but you did it in the worst and most immature way possible. I'm sure you will find that many people on this board are not die-hard honda fans... they're fans of low-budget, high HP machines (as should any man).

Take your street racing stories, your bullshit, your attitude and go away. If you feel you can come on here with something other than childish insults, then by all means. If not, I hope your stay here was pleasant.

Hey it's all good. ;D...However as Rambo said - They drew first blood.. ;)...My point is the LS1 motor is an excellent motor to consider for a swap and I was interested in opinions from you guys....I get insulted I fire back...That is normal (as should any man) I am also a fan of any high HP machines, I just happen to think the LSX motors for the money are at the very top of the food chain..

Conebox - Die in a fire? Isn't that a little harsh? Relax pyro boy on the fire threats...Go grab your magnifing glass and go burn up some ants or something...

Econo-Box 10-20-2006 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxtonboost
Any thoughts from you turbo guys....Ever considers spending a few gees and getting a real motor with real potential?...

yep your right we certainly start ---- did we.....

I guess telling people to consider "real motors" isn't starting ----?

Paxtonboost 10-20-2006 12:36 PM

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Ok, too max out the 4 banger motors which some of you guys are trying to do, you guys are maybe able to achieve what 400whp if your lucky?....That is by boosting the hell out of the motor and stressing the smaller engine to the point of failure....The LS1 motors start out comfortably supporting 400whp with much potential left for building...That is what I meant to say and nothing more...Not trying to down the smaller turbo'd motors and cause a riot on this thread...Not my intention and all appologies...

Turdbo 10-20-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Turdbo
the end


Paxtonboost 10-20-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Turdbo

Turbodildo - The end, the end...shut the ---- up or contribute some intellegent replies to my thread.. The End...


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